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Incest taboo EXPLAINED!!

Kamini24

The Intellectual
Now some of you people might be thinking "Oh oh oh! Now this girl wanna talk about incest? Has she gone crazy? Maybe she loves incest".

Nah, I am not here to support incest or fight against incest. I am just here to lay some facts in front of you. I am talking about "incest" because everyday in the chatrooms I get msgs from these kinda people (usually I just block them but if I have more time, I reason with them to make them understand their problem). I sometimes see them getting abused on the wall and I don't see abuse as a solution. It will only make it worse and they will keep coming back unless you make them understand why it is wrong. Keep your minds open while reading this post and it is gonna be long. If you are uncomfortable about this topic, just skip it.

Most of the people know incest is wrong but most of them think it is wrong for wrong reasons or they don't know any reason. I am just here to tell you the right reasons and in the process maybe I can get you to think on some interesting questions. For me incestuous feelings are a problem that needs to be addressed, instead of getting ignored.

First let us understand why we don't get sexually attracted to our parents or siblings. It is due to the "Westermarck effect".

What is this effect?
Well, it is kind of a defence our subconscious minds had learned through out evolution to avoid giving births to genetically weak off-springs. We don't get sexually attracted to our parents/siblings because we have common genes and if we have kids with them those common genes will result in mental disorders and health issues in those children. So to avoid that our subconscious minds developed this defence.

Why incest is wrong?
As I said earlier it will lead to malformed or retarded children, thus you are making those children suffer for your actions which is ethically wrong. That is why our elders say it is wrong.

Why do some people get incestuous feelings?
Incestuous feelings can be seen in any gender (mostly in men). If you observe these people and think about why these feelings occur, you can see some similar traits in them. These people are not so confident or too shy, they are not so social or outgoing, they get uncomfortable while speaking to opposite gender, they are timid and they are not so emotionally expressive. These people get incestuous feelings because they don't have a way to vent out their sexual enery and our bodies by evolution always want to look for ways to procreate. In this scenario the subconscious will be forced to lower its defence down because our genetics need to be survived by an off-spring. The subconsious will be forced to think like "Well, there is a viable male/female whose already loving me, whose already in my reach, whom I can mate with to reproduce". This happens in the background, in the subconscious. So basically these people create themselves a situation by their behaviour in which their mind will be tricked to think like this. It happens in animals too. When two animal siblings, male and female are forced to live in a closed enclosure for a long time without any other's intervention, without any other animals of their own species, they mate to continue their species. In animals we call it "Inbreeding", in humans we call it "Incest". Sometimes incestuous feelings can develop on meeting your parents/siblings after a long time. In this case your subconscious needs time to identify them as your own family again. After that the feelings will go away themself.

How to deal with people with incest feelings?
Incestuous feelings need to be treated like a mental disorder. One doesn't have to hate these people. One just have to reason with them, and make them understand their situation and help them to get confident, more social. Make them go out and make them connect with people. One must teach them to overcome their fear of opposite gender. It is gonna take a while to make them cultivate these habits but when they do it, these feelings will automatically go away. The problem is people don't wanna talk about these feelings because of society and all, they try to subdue their feelings without any help and it only makes it worse. Sometimes these feelings need therapy and thanks to society because of which people don't go to therapy. Because whenever society sees an individual seeking therapy, society thinks of the person as a degenerate or crazy rather than an individual trying for the betterment of him/herself.

Sometimes incestuous feelings can be caused by watching some categories of porn or maybe by watching too much "Game of Thrones" (you know what I am talking about :Dull:), just kidding ;). In that case you just have to make them quit that.

Whomever reading this post, if you have any friends or family members struggling with these feelings, reason with them. Help them to overcome their fears, help them to become confident and take them to therapy.

Answers for few questions I got asked in zozo chatrooms:

Caution: Views are personal.

1)Can an adult have consensual sex with their adult sibling/parent with safety precautions? Is it right or wrong?
Yes, you can have sex with precautions. Having said that, you are already attached to your parents/siblings. And when we have sex with anyone we get more attached to them. If you have sex with your sibling/parent the bond will become more strong and it will make you struggle in your future relationships. You will struggle to get into a new relationship or maintain an existing relationship. Your life will get more complicated. You will complicate your sibling/parent's life too. So I suggest people to never act on those feelings for your own sake. If you act on them, you are only destroying yourself and their life. Which leads me to the conclusion "it is wrong".

2)If homosexuality is not wrong, why incest is wrong?
Well, in homosexuality you can't have children with your partner, but in incest that is not the case, accidents can result in unhealthy children. That is why it is "wrong".

3)Is homosexual incest ok?
Okayish. Having said that, it is still wrong because, you are making your life seriously complicated, why? Read the answer for question 1 again. So "No, Nada, Not a chance in the world".

A scenario for people to ponder on:
Lets put you in a worst-case scenario. Tomorrow you woke up in a tropical island and you figured out that all human life got extinct. Only you and your sibling of opposite gender are the lone survivours of your own species, you both are adults and young. You both are morally strong people and you don't have any incestuous feelings for each other. You have abundant food for a life time, you have a shelter but you have no way to get out of the island or to be saved. What effect will this scenario have on those siblings? What effect will it have on their minds and emotions?

You can write your answer for the above scenario in the comments below if you want to. I will break down and answer the scenario after some time in comments.

And if anyone have any more doubts on this topic, you can comment below or if you are not comfortable here, you can ping me. When I have time, I will help you out.

PS:I am not into my brother/dad. So don't misunderstand me, even if you do, well, "I don't care":angel:. I hope the guy who asked me a lot of questions seeing this, I hope I answered all your questions.
 
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Mission

Member
Now some of you people might be thinking "Oh oh oh! Now this girl wanna talk about incest? Has she gone crazy? Maybe she loves incest".

Nah, I am not here to support incest or fight against incest. I am just here to lay some facts in front of you. I am talking about "incest" because everyday in the chatrooms I get msgs from these kinda people (usually I just block them but if I have more time, I reason with them to make them understand their problem). I sometimes see them getting abused on the wall and I don't see abuse as a solution. It will only make it worse and they will keep coming back unless you make them understand why it is wrong. Keep your minds open while reading this post and it is gonna be long. If you are uncomfortable about this topic, just skip it.

Most of the people know incest is wrong but most of them think it is wrong for wrong reasons or they don't know any reason. I am just here to tell you the right reasons and in the process maybe I can get you to think on some interesting questions. For me incestuous feelings are a problem that needs to be addressed, instead of getting ignored.

First let us understand why we don't get sexually attracted to our parents or siblings. It is due to the "Westermarck effect".

What is this effect?
Well, it is kind of a defence our subconscious minds had learned through out evolution to avoid giving births to genetically weak off-springs. We don't get sexually attracted to our parents/siblings because we have common genes and if we have kids with them those common genes will result in mental disorders and health issues in those children. So to avoid that our subconscious minds developed this defence.

Why incest is wrong?
As I said earlier it will lead to malformed or retarded children, thus you are making those children suffer for your actions which is ethically wrong. That is why our elders say it is wrong.

Why do some people get incestuous feelings?
Incestuous feelings can be seen in any gender (mostly in men). If you observe these people and think about why these feelings occur, you can see some similar traits in them. These people are not so confident or too shy, they are not so social or outgoing, they get uncomfortable while speaking to opposite gender, they are timid and they are not so emotionally expressive. These people get incestuous feelings because they don't have a way to vent out their sexual enery and our bodies by evolution always want to look for ways to procreate. In this scenario the subconscious will be forced to lower its defence down because our genetics need to be survived by an off-spring. The subconsious will be forced to think like "Well, there is a viable male/female whose already loving me, whose already in my reach, whom I can mate with to reproduce". This happens in the background, in the subconscious. So basically these people create themselves a situation by their behaviour in which their mind will be tricked to think like this. It happens in animals too. When two animal siblings, male and female are forced to live in a closed enclosure for a long time without any other's intervention, without any other animals of their own species, they mate to continue their species. In animals we call it "Inbreeding", in humans we call it "Incest". Sometimes incestuous feelings can develop on meeting your parents/siblings after a long long time. In this case your subconscious needs time to identify them as your own family again. After that the feelings will go away themself.

How to deal with people with incest feelings?
Incestuous feelings need to be treated like a mental disorder. One doesn't have to hate these people. One just have to reason with them, and make them understand their situation and help them to get confident, more social. Make them go out and make them connect with people. One must teach them to overcome their fear of opposite gender. It is gonna take a while to make them cultivate these habits but when they do it, these feelings will automatically go away. The problem is people don't wanna talk about these feelings because of society and all, they try to subdue their feelings without any help and it only makes it worse. Sometimes these feelings need therapy and thanks to society because of which people don't go to therapy. Because whenever society sees an individual seeking therapy, society thinks of the person as a degenerate or crazy rather than an individual trying for the betterment of him/herself.

Sometimes incestuous feelings can be caused by watching some categories of porn or maybe by watching too much "Game of Thrones" (you know what I am talking about :Dull:), just kidding ;). In that case you just have to make them quit that.

Whomever reading this post, if you have any friends or family members struggling with these feelings, reason with them. Help them to overcome their fears, help them to become confident and take them to therapy.

Answers for few questions I got asked in zozo chatrooms:

Caution: Views are personal.

1)Can an adult have consensual sex with their adult sibling/parent with safety precautions? Is it right or wrong?
Yes, you can have sex with precautions. Having said that, you are already attached to your parents/siblings. And when we have sex with anyone we get more attached to them. If you have sex with your sibling/parent the bond will become more strong and it will make you struggle in your future relationships. You will struggle to get into a new relationship or maintain an existing relationship. Your life will get more complicated. You will complicate your sibling/parent's life too. So I suggest people to never act on those feelings for your own sake. If you act on them, you are only destroying yourself and their life. Which leads me to the conclusion "it is wrong".

2)If homosexuality is not wrong? Why incest is wrong?
Well, in homosexuality you can't have children with your partner, but in incest that is not the case, accidents can result in unhealthy children. That is why it is "wrong".

3)Is homosexual incest ok?
Okayish. Having said that, it is still wrong because, you are making your life seriously complicated, why? Read the answer for question 1 again. So "No, Nada, Not a chance in the world".

A scenario for people to ponder on:
Lets put you in a worst-case scenario. Tomorrow you woke up in a tropical island and you figured out that all human life got extinct. Only you and your sibling of opposite gender are the lone survivours of your own species, you both are adults and young. You both are morally strong people and you don't have any incestuous feelings for each other. You have abundant food for a life time, you have a shelter but you have no way to get out of the island or to be saved. What effect will this scenario have on those siblings? What effect will it have on their minds and emotions?

You can write your answer for the above scenario in the comments below if you want to. I will break down and answer the scenario after some time in comments.

And if anyone have any more doubts on this topic, you can comment below or if you are not comfortable here, you can ping me. When I have time, I will help you out.

PS:I am not into my brother/dad. So don't misunderstand me, even if you do, well, "I don't care":angel:. I hope the guy who asked me a lot of questions seeing this, I hope I answered all your questions.
Ohh god , I don't have patience to read this Essay, brief me in two lines
 

Kohli

Member
Now some of you people might be thinking "Oh oh oh! Now this girl wanna talk about incest? Has she gone crazy? Maybe she loves incest".

Nah, I am not here to support incest or fight against incest. I am just here to lay some facts in front of you. I am talking about "incest" because everyday in the chatrooms I get msgs from these kinda people (usually I just block them but if I have more time, I reason with them to make them understand their problem). I sometimes see them getting abused on the wall and I don't see abuse as a solution. It will only make it worse and they will keep coming back unless you make them understand why it is wrong. Keep your minds open while reading this post and it is gonna be long. If you are uncomfortable about this topic, just skip it.

Most of the people know incest is wrong but most of them think it is wrong for wrong reasons or they don't know any reason. I am just here to tell you the right reasons and in the process maybe I can get you to think on some interesting questions. For me incestuous feelings are a problem that needs to be addressed, instead of getting ignored.

First let us understand why we don't get sexually attracted to our parents or siblings. It is due to the "Westermarck effect".

What is this effect?
Well, it is kind of a defence our subconscious minds had learned through out evolution to avoid giving births to genetically weak off-springs. We don't get sexually attracted to our parents/siblings because we have common genes and if we have kids with them those common genes will result in mental disorders and health issues in those children. So to avoid that our subconscious minds developed this defence.

Why incest is wrong?
As I said earlier it will lead to malformed or retarded children, thus you are making those children suffer for your actions which is ethically wrong. That is why our elders say it is wrong.

Why do some people get incestuous feelings?
Incestuous feelings can be seen in any gender (mostly in men). If you observe these people and think about why these feelings occur, you can see some similar traits in them. These people are not so confident or too shy, they are not so social or outgoing, they get uncomfortable while speaking to opposite gender, they are timid and they are not so emotionally expressive. These people get incestuous feelings because they don't have a way to vent out their sexual enery and our bodies by evolution always want to look for ways to procreate. In this scenario the subconscious will be forced to lower its defence down because our genetics need to be survived by an off-spring. The subconsious will be forced to think like "Well, there is a viable male/female whose already loving me, whose already in my reach, whom I can mate with to reproduce". This happens in the background, in the subconscious. So basically these people create themselves a situation by their behaviour in which their mind will be tricked to think like this. It happens in animals too. When two animal siblings, male and female are forced to live in a closed enclosure for a long time without any other's intervention, without any other animals of their own species, they mate to continue their species. In animals we call it "Inbreeding", in humans we call it "Incest". Sometimes incestuous feelings can develop on meeting your parents/siblings after a long long time. In this case your subconscious needs time to identify them as your own family again. After that the feelings will go away themself.

How to deal with people with incest feelings?
Incestuous feelings need to be treated like a mental disorder. One doesn't have to hate these people. One just have to reason with them, and make them understand their situation and help them to get confident, more social. Make them go out and make them connect with people. One must teach them to overcome their fear of opposite gender. It is gonna take a while to make them cultivate these habits but when they do it, these feelings will automatically go away. The problem is people don't wanna talk about these feelings because of society and all, they try to subdue their feelings without any help and it only makes it worse. Sometimes these feelings need therapy and thanks to society because of which people don't go to therapy. Because whenever society sees an individual seeking therapy, society thinks of the person as a degenerate or crazy rather than an individual trying for the betterment of him/herself.

Sometimes incestuous feelings can be caused by watching some categories of porn or maybe by watching too much "Game of Thrones" (you know what I am talking about :Dull:), just kidding ;). In that case you just have to make them quit that.

Whomever reading this post, if you have any friends or family members struggling with these feelings, reason with them. Help them to overcome their fears, help them to become confident and take them to therapy.

Answers for few questions I got asked in zozo chatrooms:

Caution: Views are personal.

1)Can an adult have consensual sex with their adult sibling/parent with safety precautions? Is it right or wrong?
Yes, you can have sex with precautions. Having said that, you are already attached to your parents/siblings. And when we have sex with anyone we get more attached to them. If you have sex with your sibling/parent the bond will become more strong and it will make you struggle in your future relationships. You will struggle to get into a new relationship or maintain an existing relationship. Your life will get more complicated. You will complicate your sibling/parent's life too. So I suggest people to never act on those feelings for your own sake. If you act on them, you are only destroying yourself and their life. Which leads me to the conclusion "it is wrong".

2)If homosexuality is not wrong? Why incest is wrong?
Well, in homosexuality you can't have children with your partner, but in incest that is not the case, accidents can result in unhealthy children. That is why it is "wrong".

3)Is homosexual incest ok?
Okayish. Having said that, it is still wrong because, you are making your life seriously complicated, why? Read the answer for question 1 again. So "No, Nada, Not a chance in the world".

A scenario for people to ponder on:
Lets put you in a worst-case scenario. Tomorrow you woke up in a tropical island and you figured out that all human life got extinct. Only you and your sibling of opposite gender are the lone survivours of your own species, you both are adults and young. You both are morally strong people and you don't have any incestuous feelings for each other. You have abundant food for a life time, you have a shelter but you have no way to get out of the island or to be saved. What effect will this scenario have on those siblings? What effect will it have on their minds and emotions?

You can write your answer for the above scenario in the comments below if you want to. I will break down and answer the scenario after some time in comments.

And if anyone have any more doubts on this topic, you can comment below or if you are not comfortable here, you can ping me. When I have time, I will help you out.

PS:I am not into my brother/dad. So don't misunderstand me, even if you do, well, "I don't care":angel:. I hope the guy who asked me a lot of questions seeing this, I hope I answered all your questions.
Excuse me for my bad English and please try to understand the meaning even if my grammar is bad.

I'm confused and was thinking to skip or to express my comments.

Before commenting I would like to give u few examples. Think in ur mind and after that read my comments

1. All must be knowing regarding 'Nirbaya case'.
2. U r a father. Ur son have sexual feelings on ur wife whose his mother

3 Ur husband having sexual relation with other girls. Do u accept?

This is regarding a scenario.
4. U r a son. Ur mother is fallen sick that she can't do her personal things. U r only person in home to help her. Do u help her in personals or not.

Take time and read below

1. As said incest is a mental disorder, so they can't be treated bad. Same like that raping a girl brutally is also a mental disorder. Do u agree with this and treat them as common people and take care of them?

2. Can u tolerate if that mental disorder person is ur son?

3. Will u treat him as mental disorder let him do as per his wish

4. When comes to this situation, yes u have to help ur mother for her personal things. Treat her as ur small daughter.

As u r helping her when is can't able to do is different and doing the same thing when she is well enough to do is different.
Don't compare both the things and make a common conclusion

My conclusion is all mental disorders r not taken easy. Wrong is wrong. Please don't support.
Nobody in world r born with bad mind.
It's ur sense to control ur mind and behave as a human being. Other wise there is no difference between human and animal.
Terrorist and rapists r not born, they r made.

Kindly understand my inner meaning and please don't encourage worst things
 

Beryl

Chat Secret Agent
Moderator
Posting Freak
Excuse me for my bad English and please try to understand the meaning even if my grammar is bad.

I'm confused and was thinking to skip or to express my comments.

Before commenting I would like to give u few examples. Think in ur mind and after that read my comments

1. All must be knowing regarding 'Nirbaya case'.
2. U r a father. Ur son have sexual feelings on ur wife whose his mother

3 Ur husband having sexual relation with other girls. Do u accept?

This is regarding a scenario.
4. U r a son. Ur mother is fallen sick that she can't do her personal things. U r only person in home to help her. Do u help her in personals or not.

Take time and read below

1. As said incest is a mental disorder, so they can't be treated bad. Same like that raping a girl brutally is also a mental disorder. Do u agree with this and treat them as common people and take care of them?

2. Can u tolerate if that mental disorder person is ur son?

3. Will u treat him as mental disorder let him do as per his wish

4. When comes to this situation, yes u have to help ur mother for her personal things. Treat her as ur small daughter.

As u r helping her when is can't able to do is different and doing the same thing when she is well enough to do is different.
Don't compare both the things and make a common conclusion

My conclusion is all mental disorders r not taken easy. Wrong is wrong. Please don't support.
Nobody in world r born with bad mind.
It's ur sense to control ur mind and behave as a human being. Other wise there is no difference between human and animal.
Terrorist and rapists r not born, they r made.

Kindly understand my inner meaning and please don't encourage worst things
:clapping:
 

Main Hu Tera Humsafar

Mr.Authenticity
Chat Pro User
Excuse me for my bad English and please try to understand the meaning even if my grammar is bad.

I'm confused and was thinking to skip or to express my comments.

Before commenting I would like to give u few examples. Think in ur mind and after that read my comments

1. All must be knowing regarding 'Nirbaya case'.
2. U r a father. Ur son have sexual feelings on ur wife whose his mother

3 Ur husband having sexual relation with other girls. Do u accept?

This is regarding a scenario.
4. U r a son. Ur mother is fallen sick that she can't do her personal things. U r only person in home to help her. Do u help her in personals or not.

Take time and read below

1. As said incest is a mental disorder, so they can't be treated bad. Same like that raping a girl brutally is also a mental disorder. Do u agree with this and treat them as common people and take care of them?

2. Can u tolerate if that mental disorder person is ur son?

3. Will u treat him as mental disorder let him do as per his wish

4. When comes to this situation, yes u have to help ur mother for her personal things. Treat her as ur small daughter.

As u r helping her when is can't able to do is different and doing the same thing when she is well enough to do is different.
Don't compare both the things and make a common conclusion

My conclusion is all mental disorders r not taken easy. Wrong is wrong. Please don't support.
Nobody in world r born with bad mind.
It's ur sense to control ur mind and behave as a human being. Other wise there is no difference between human and animal.
Terrorist and rapists r not born, they r made.

Kindly understand my inner meaning and please don't encourage worst things
Nice
 

Vishnuu

Modern Sanyasi of ZoZo
Chat Pro User
Essays Paragraphs so on...o_O




PS: I'll definitely read it... Lets take a bow for Kaamini for writing this so long...
 
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Kamini24

The Intellectual
Excuse me for my bad English and please try to understand the meaning even if my grammar is bad.

I'm confused and was thinking to skip or to express my comments.

Before commenting I would like to give u few examples. Think in ur mind and after that read my comments

1. All must be knowing regarding 'Nirbaya case'.
2. U r a father. Ur son have sexual feelings on ur wife whose his mother

3 Ur husband having sexual relation with other girls. Do u accept?

This is regarding a scenario.
4. U r a son. Ur mother is fallen sick that she can't do her personal things. U r only person in home to help her. Do u help her in personals or not.

Take time and read below

1. As said incest is a mental disorder, so they can't be treated bad. Same like that raping a girl brutally is also a mental disorder. Do u agree with this and treat them as common people and take care of them?

2. Can u tolerate if that mental disorder person is ur son?

3. Will u treat him as mental disorder let him do as per his wish

4. When comes to this situation, yes u have to help ur mother for her personal things. Treat her as ur small daughter.

As u r helping her when is can't able to do is different and doing the same thing when she is well enough to do is different.
Don't compare both the things and make a common conclusion

My conclusion is all mental disorders r not taken easy. Wrong is wrong. Please don't support.
Nobody in world r born with bad mind.
It's ur sense to control ur mind and behave as a human being. Other wise there is no difference between human and animal.
Terrorist and rapists r not born, they r made.

Kindly understand my inner meaning and please don't encourage worst things
Dear Kohli,

Read my original post once more and read this comment after that.

I didn't support incest in my post. You compared Nirbhaya case which is a heinous crime with people having incestuous feelings and struggling with them. There is a clear difference between psychopathy in action(which is to get satisfaction by hurting others or fulfilling your desires in wrong ways without thinking about other's feelings, this is the mindset of those Nirbhaya case culprits) and thoughts people with incestuous feelings are struggling with.

Let me give an example to make you understand the difference between thoughts and actions. Sometimes people we love, hurt us really bad or cheat on us. When they do that, we get the thoughts to kill them, but we don't act on those thoughts. The thought won't turn into action unless you permit it. So you can't jail people for thinking about killing someone. Punishments are for actions not for thoughts. If you punish people for their thoughts, I am damn sure that no one will go unpunished in this world.

Answers for your questions:

1.Yes, I know about Nirbhaya case. And it happened already (thoughts became action), it was a horrendous crime, but I was talking about thoughts not actions. If you read my post once again, you will understand that I said not to act on those incestuous thoughts and seek help.

Yes, incestuous feelings are a mental disorder and one needs to get therapy, instead of acting on them. The people with incestuous feelings shouldn't be treated bad (bad in the sense like hurting them or abusing them, seeing them like a criminal who committed horrendous crimes) because they didn't act on those feelings. They didn't take action yet. They didn't force themselves on their siblings/parents. If they did force themselves on their siblings/parents, it is just as rape and rape is a serious crime. So, then they should be put away in jail and raping a girl also a mental disorder but it is also a crime. And it doesn't matter you have mental disorder or not, when one commits a crime, they shall be jailed or put away in mental institutions. And government puts criminals in jail to make them realize their mistakes to repent, it gives them a second chance. As long as the culprits removed from the society and put away in jail, there won't be any crimes futher committed by them, so people shouldn't be worried about those criminals. The problem with our government is, it doesn't provide good moral support and mental treatments for the criminals to get them in their right minds. So when they come out of jail, they mostly the same people who committed crimes with the same mind set which they have before getting jailed. And I didn't say to treat people with incestuous feelings like common people but I said to treat them like people who needs mental and moral support. But they should not know about you are viewing them different from others because then they feel different, they might not open up and connect with people, it only makes it worse for them. And don't compare those rapists who commited a heinous crime with people who are struggling with incestuous thoghts. A rapist and one with incestuous feelings are two different beings. They need two different ways of treatment.

2.If I were him, I would speak with my son and explain him why it is wrong. I explain him why it is happening because he is my son. I am not saying I will let him have sex with his mother or my wife, I will never let that happen and I will take him to therapy. I will make him connect with people, I will make him understand his problem. But if he refuses and forces himself on my wife then it is rape, so I will get him jailed.

3.I want to answer this in two different ways.

First, It is my personal opinion. I don't accept it. I don't like my husband to have sex with any other girl because I don't permit it or consent for it. I won't treat it like a mental disorder because I know men's mentality, even though they get married they still have sexual fantasies about other women (it is completely natural, it is just part of human physiology and our evolution). The only thing I can do is to talk to my partner to see where I am lagging but I will never permit him to have sex with other women.

Second, It depends on the person, some wives are okay with their husbands having sex with another and viceversa because they give permission to their husband/wife to have sex with others. In western culture they call it an "Open relationship or Open marriage". But I don't like open marriages or relationships because I want my husband to be mine and mine alone and I want to be his and his alone. So I won't ever let him to do as per his wish. No and never.

4.Yes, I will help my mother because it is my responsibility. If you are talking about sex in here, then I won't have sex with my mom because it will only complicate my life and her life too. It is not good for our well-being both emotionally and mentally.

End of answers.

"Don't compare both the things and make a common conclusion", I need some clarity on this statement. Did I make any wrong comparisons in my post??

You said, I quote "My conclusion is all mental disorders r not taken easy. Wrong is wrong. Please don't support." This is the most logical and reasonable thing in your comment. I didn't say all mental disorders should be taken easy. I did say incest is wrong so that does suggest "wrong is wrong" and I definitely didn't support incest in my post.

"Kindly understand my inner meaning and please don't encourage worst things", again you got me on the flip side. "I didn't support incest"

I am sorry for writing this long paragraphs, but your questions deserves long explanations. Have a great day. Bye :angel:.
 
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Kamini24

The Intellectual
Ohh god , I don't have patience to read this Essay, brief me in two lines
Essays Paragraphs so on...o_O




PS: I'll definitely read it... Kaamini take a bow for writing this so long...
In short:

It is okay to get incestuous feelings (just like the feeling to kill someone when they did something very wrong to you), but one should never act on those feelings for their well-being. One must seek help and take therapy to get rid of those feelings ASAP.
 
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Kohli

Member
I'm sorry for misunderstanding u and also thanku that u don't support incest.

Lemme clarify regarding my post, why I was made to write.

1. U said that "Yes, you can have sex with precautions" "If you have sex with your sibling/parent the bond will become more strong and it will make you struggle in your future relationships."
ur version for wrong is due "You will struggle to get into a new relationship or maintain an existing relationship"

strong Bonding is never be a struggle in ur life. Infact it's a strength.
Bonding due to sex is bad.

Sorry I couldn't able to conclude my thoughts properly due to my bad writing skills.
I'm not here to find fault of anybody. If ur intension is good, I really appreciate it.

May be my understanding is not proper
 

Kamini24

The Intellectual
I'm sorry for misunderstanding u and also thanku that u don't support incest.

Lemme clarify regarding my post, why I was made to write.

1. U said that "Yes, you can have sex with precautions" "If you have sex with your sibling/parent the bond will become more strong and it will make you struggle in your future relationships."
ur version for wrong is due "You will struggle to get into a new relationship or maintain an existing relationship"

strong Bonding is never be a struggle in ur life. Infact it's a strength.
Bonding due to sex is bad.

Sorry I couldn't able to conclude my thoughts properly due to my bad writing skills.
I'm not here to find fault of anybody. If ur intension is good, I really appreciate it.

May be my understanding is not proper
Dear Kohli,

My version for wrong is sensible, exact and you can't find any more logical way of approach than this. I said "Yes, you can have sex with precautions" because it won't hurt you physically and if you read the question 1 "carefully" there are two words called "consensual sex" and "adult" in it. We know that consensual sex between adults is not wrong. So what making incest wrong is not related to consent. What making incest wrong lies in the "consequence" of it. And that consequence is "If you have sex with your sibling/parent the bond will become more strong and it will make you struggle in your future relationships. You will struggle to get into a new relationship or maintain an existing relationship". I hope you got the point.

"strong Bonding is never be a struggle in ur life. Infact it's a strength". Regarding this statement, I would like to say "Not always, it is not always a strength. Some times it sucks the life out of you".

"Bonding due to sex is bad". Regarding this also, "Not always".

"I'm not here to find fault of anybody. If ur intension is good, I really appreciate it". Regarding this one, if you find faults in me, first I want you to know that "I am not perfect and don't expect me to be". Second even if you do find faults in me, well, "I don't care". Cause "I am not here to say things to please people, I am here to speak the truth, I am brutally honest and I always will be" :angel:. Oh! well, the intentions of my serene and sane-self are always good :).

I am sorry that you couldn't comprehend my thread. I am sorry if I did make any wrong analogies and I am sorry if I seem to emotionally torment you.

I am ending this discussion from my end.
 
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Kamini24

The Intellectual
Lets break down the scenario in my original post:

You are in an island without anyway of being saved, you have only your sibling with you. The first few days will be ok. You will remain sane. But after few days humans being social creatures, their minds will start feeling loneliness, they start freaking out. Their loneliness and fears push those siblings to become more dependent on each other. After few weeks human survival instincts starts to kick in. As we know that instincts are more powerful than your morals, you start to develop feelings for your sibling. Because procreation is also a survival instinct, only on a complex level. Your genetics should be passed and preserved, whether your babies gonna be healthy or not is secondary for your subconscious. So your subconscious lower its guard down. You both develop feelings for each other. What makes human a human is society and its rules. But out in the wild, the concept of society and its rules doesn't exist. Out in the wild, you are just like any other animal. So after living together for few weeks or months, the siblings will indulge in sex, not because they wanted to, just because their subconscious is triggered the basic instincts of survival. They will have kids.
 
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MrChocolate

Active Member
Now some of you people might be thinking "Oh oh oh! Now this girl wanna talk about incest? Has she gone crazy? Maybe she loves incest".

Nah, I am not here to support incest or fight against incest. I am just here to lay some facts in front of you. I am talking about "incest" because everyday in the chatrooms I get msgs from these kinda people (usually I just block them but if I have more time, I reason with them to make them understand their problem). I sometimes see them getting abused on the wall and I don't see abuse as a solution. It will only make it worse and they will keep coming back unless you make them understand why it is wrong. Keep your minds open while reading this post and it is gonna be long. If you are uncomfortable about this topic, just skip it.

Most of the people know incest is wrong but most of them think it is wrong for wrong reasons or they don't know any reason. I am just here to tell you the right reasons and in the process maybe I can get you to think on some interesting questions. For me incestuous feelings are a problem that needs to be addressed, instead of getting ignored.

First let us understand why we don't get sexually attracted to our parents or siblings. It is due to the "Westermarck effect".

What is this effect?
Well, it is kind of a defence our subconscious minds had learned through out evolution to avoid giving births to genetically weak off-springs. We don't get sexually attracted to our parents/siblings because we have common genes and if we have kids with them those common genes will result in mental disorders and health issues in those children. So to avoid that our subconscious minds developed this defence.

Why incest is wrong?
As I said earlier it will lead to malformed or retarded children, thus you are making those children suffer for your actions which is ethically wrong. That is why our elders say it is wrong.

Why do some people get incestuous feelings?
Incestuous feelings can be seen in any gender (mostly in men). If you observe these people and think about why these feelings occur, you can see some similar traits in them. These people are not so confident or too shy, they are not so social or outgoing, they get uncomfortable while speaking to opposite gender, they are timid and they are not so emotionally expressive. These people get incestuous feelings because they don't have a way to vent out their sexual enery and our bodies by evolution always want to look for ways to procreate. In this scenario the subconscious will be forced to lower its defence down because our genetics need to be survived by an off-spring. The subconsious will be forced to think like "Well, there is a viable male/female whose already loving me, whose already in my reach, whom I can mate with to reproduce". This happens in the background, in the subconscious. So basically these people create themselves a situation by their behaviour in which their mind will be tricked to think like this. It happens in animals too. When two animal siblings, male and female are forced to live in a closed enclosure for a long time without any other's intervention, without any other animals of their own species, they mate to continue their species. In animals we call it "Inbreeding", in humans we call it "Incest". Sometimes incestuous feelings can develop on meeting your parents/siblings after a long long time. In this case your subconscious needs time to identify them as your own family again. After that the feelings will go away themself.

How to deal with people with incest feelings?
Incestuous feelings need to be treated like a mental disorder. One doesn't have to hate these people. One just have to reason with them, and make them understand their situation and help them to get confident, more social. Make them go out and make them connect with people. One must teach them to overcome their fear of opposite gender. It is gonna take a while to make them cultivate these habits but when they do it, these feelings will automatically go away. The problem is people don't wanna talk about these feelings because of society and all, they try to subdue their feelings without any help and it only makes it worse. Sometimes these feelings need therapy and thanks to society because of which people don't go to therapy. Because whenever society sees an individual seeking therapy, society thinks of the person as a degenerate or crazy rather than an individual trying for the betterment of him/herself.

Sometimes incestuous feelings can be caused by watching some categories of porn or maybe by watching too much "Game of Thrones" (you know what I am talking about :Dull:), just kidding ;). In that case you just have to make them quit that.

Whomever reading this post, if you have any friends or family members struggling with these feelings, reason with them. Help them to overcome their fears, help them to become confident and take them to therapy.

Answers for few questions I got asked in zozo chatrooms:

Caution: Views are personal.

1)Can an adult have consensual sex with their adult sibling/parent with safety precautions? Is it right or wrong?
Yes, you can have sex with precautions. Having said that, you are already attached to your parents/siblings. And when we have sex with anyone we get more attached to them. If you have sex with your sibling/parent the bond will become more strong and it will make you struggle in your future relationships. You will struggle to get into a new relationship or maintain an existing relationship. Your life will get more complicated. You will complicate your sibling/parent's life too. So I suggest people to never act on those feelings for your own sake. If you act on them, you are only destroying yourself and their life. Which leads me to the conclusion "it is wrong".

2)If homosexuality is not wrong, why incest is wrong?
Well, in homosexuality you can't have children with your partner, but in incest that is not the case, accidents can result in unhealthy children. That is why it is "wrong".

3)Is homosexual incest ok?
Okayish. Having said that, it is still wrong because, you are making your life seriously complicated, why? Read the answer for question 1 again. So "No, Nada, Not a chance in the world".

A scenario for people to ponder on:
Lets put you in a worst-case scenario. Tomorrow you woke up in a tropical island and you figured out that all human life got extinct. Only you and your sibling of opposite gender are the lone survivours of your own species, you both are adults and young. You both are morally strong people and you don't have any incestuous feelings for each other. You have abundant food for a life time, you have a shelter but you have no way to get out of the island or to be saved. What effect will this scenario have on those siblings? What effect will it have on their minds and emotions?

You can write your answer for the above scenario in the comments below if you want to. I will break down and answer the scenario after some time in comments.

And if anyone have any more doubts on this topic, you can comment below or if you are not comfortable here, you can ping me. When I have time, I will help you out.

PS:I am not into my brother/dad. So don't misunderstand me, even if you do, well, "I don't care":angel:. I hope the guy who asked me a lot of questions seeing this, I hope I answered all your questions.
Hahaha k24 , emichepinavamma , keep rocking ikada :clapping:
 

Kamini24

The Intellectual
Incest is not our culture:). U just need a hole to penetrate just go with rat holes:D
Incest is not part of any culture that exists now. And as far as rat holes are concerned, it is better to go with your hands rather than nasty rat holes.
 
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